Powerline Podcast | Discover Your Why

Dr. Kevin Rindal | Vimocity

Ryan Lucas | Powerline Podcast

All right, Kevin, I am extremely excited about having you here. Thanks for making the trip across the country to be here. And I was just—I just got on Instagram and I just shared a little story about, uh, wanting to switch up the podcast a little bit. I've talked to you about this and talked to everyone around here about this, but like for you guys listening, I kind of want to go a bit of a different direction in 2025. I want to, like, with the podcast—I mean, I want to, I want to really create these, like, little mini master classes so that I can, you know, give this episode a title and a headline and a thumbnail and actually deliver on that topic and really hone in and dive deep on one to three topics per episode. So, having you here today, we're going to talk everything, uh, Human Performance, and really give you, like, a human performance blueprint. So, welcome to the show.

Thanks, Ryan. I'm so grateful to be here. I love what you do, and yeah, thanks for bringing these types of conversations to the line world and utility world. That's pretty awesome—they're super important to have. And when we talk Human Performance, I know some people, like, hopefully haven't switched off the episode already, like, “Oh God, what are they talking about again?” But honestly, we want to dive in on ways to make you healthier, yeah, whether that's physical health, mental health, whatever. Um, it's important, and it's the way you're going to, like, survive your career, survive your life, survive your family life, whatever it is. You just got to get right with yourself in order to make that happen, and so we want to, like, help give you the tools to do that.

And it's not just surviving your career too—it's like, how are you showing up in all aspects of life as your best self and get to the end of your career and actually get to, to enjoy all the hard work that you put in? So, yeah, that's what it's all about. Give me a little history on yourself—who you are, where you come from, that sort of thing.

Yeah, no, I grew up in Washington State, kind of a small town. You know, everyone in my family was a farmer, fisherman, or a logger. My dad actually happened to go into—he's a chiropractor, and, um, I grew up playing a ton of sports and, uh, have three brothers and a sister. And what's funny is now they're like three of us boys are chiropractors, and K, so yeah, we all kind of went down that path. But a big part of it was just, you know, I, I experienced a lot of injuries. You know, I'm not huge but played middle linebacker and so I just got beat up, and, but I, I, I loved it. And, uh, so I just realized, you know what, there's something here, something that I want to do to be able to help others be able to recover from injuries so that they can get back to, to playing and performance, and then, you know, again, just be able to, to live their best life. And, uh, so that led me down a path of, uh, going to Chiropractic School, uh, pursued some really specific things related to, um, optimizing Human Performance and soft tissue injuries. And, uh, had the chance pretty early on to start working with the U.S. women's ice hockey team, traveled with them for a couple years, then spent 10 years working with the United States Olympic Swim Team as part of their Sports Medicine staff, and so 2012, 2016 Olympics, and just like phenomenal experience being able to work with, you know, these athletes who perform at such a high level. And, um, I kind of think of them almost like, you know, Formula One vehicles, and I was kind of the mechanic, and just, you know, had the opportunity to work with them on how do we fine-tune them so that they can perform at the highest level.

And then in '16, uh, I was asked by a utility up in Washington State if I could basically adapt what I was doing with these athletes to their workforce. And so we started, uh, a pilot with about 1,200 utility workers—substation, line, gas employees, generation employees. And in that first year, we just saw a tremendous improvement, like 53% reduction in soft tissue injuries. They saved, like, $670,000. And I was like, okay, there's, there's something here. But it also, for me, it really hit home just on a personal level because I, I worked every summer job, like I, I was, like, you know, bucking hay bales, working out in the fields. Uh, then I spent my college summers working for, um, the tree trimming crew for the public works department, the road crew. So just like, I saw, you know, the people that I had grown up working with. And then, you know, my grandpa was a pipefitter for 44 years, raised cattle on the side. And, uh, I just remember he would come home at the end of the day, he was so broken down, like it would literally take him, like, 30 seconds just to stand up straight, and he would just say stuff like, “This is what getting old looks like.” And it was just this, this mindset of like, you should work hard your whole life, and the expectation should be that you're broken down—that's just, that's what we all do.

And so when all this stuff came together and I started working with people, I was like, I see my grandpa everywhere I turn, and I'm like, it does not have to turn out like what it did for him. And so it just has really become my life's passion because what I realized is my grandfather, he didn't have a framework for how to take care of his body. So he, you know, he knew more about how to take care of his tools, his vehicle, his fences, and his own body. And I mean, if you don't maintain stuff, it's going to break down. And so that's really, you know, what I, I do now is like, how do we bring this structure to utility and line workers so that they can get to the end of their careers feeling their best.

How did you originally get hooked up with the utility industry? Like, how did that connection happen?

It was so funny—it was one of the executives at this company was a patient in my clinic. And, uh, so I was just working on their shoulder, and their next stop was surgery. And I mean, it was a pretty simple fix. It was just like, oh, you know, I mean, the shoulder—I'm going to go on a tangent here for a second—but the shoulder's crazy. It's like 17 muscles that hold these three bones into place. Everything has to work perfectly. And so it's almost like a tent—if you put up a tent and any of the cords are tighter than the other, it's going to distort the whole tent. And so for that individual, it's just like, some of the cords were too tight in the front, pulling everything forward, and so it's just balancing it out. And, you know, pretty soon, it's like, oh, my shoulder maybe doesn't need to have surgery.

So I think it was one of those “aha” moments for that individual—that a lot of stuff that maybe people are dealing with may not be as severe.

That's crazy. Most of us, like you said, would think, “That's for life.” Totally. You know, I haven't been able to get rid of this for six years.

Yeah, and, you know, whatever—I don't believe you, like, I've been working on it.

Yeah, yeah. So I just, I, I see a tremendous opportunity, and I think it comes out of a ton of respect. I mean, I sold the farm. I, you know, stopped, uh, working with the swim team. I sold my clinic to go down this path because I was just like, there’s so much opportunity here. And everything that we're doing to help support the muscular-skeletal health of the workforce is like 25 years outdated. No athlete does what we do in the industry as a standard. And so it just seemed like a really good opportunity to move things up a few notches. Explain that a little bit more, then, and like what you're doing.

So, a big part of what I see as the solution is, it all comes back to education, and it's teaching people about how their body works, just, you know, at a baseline level, and then giving them a framework so that they can basically, you know, fine-tune their muscles, their joints, they can troubleshoot when problems come up rather than just focusing on, you know, a five-minute stretch and flex at the start of the day is going to, you know, protect everyone. It goes beyond that.

And so what I found is that when people learn principles, they learn how to, like, roll out muscles, how to focus on improving their breathing technique. When they focus on mobility rather than just static stretching, in certain instances, that's a huge opportunity for them to start to take control of their body as opposed to just, like, you know, willy-nilly try to, you know, prevent injuries through, you know, just some type of stretch and flex or check-the-box.

Interesting. So what did you find then? Like, what did you find, like, right off the hop, as step one that utility workers, linemen, whatever, people in our space can do to start making a change?

Yeah. So, and we've talked a lot about this leading up to this conversation, is that, you know, everything in life is small habits on a consistent basis that lead to, you know, long-term change. And so I think sometimes people, you know, they think about this and they're like, "I don't want to exercise, I don't have an hour." So it's just like, you know, what are the different things that people can do? And I always try to bucket it into three different categories.

So the one bucket is, like, body maintenance—muscle enjoyment, maintenance. An example, you know, you've used one of those rollers, roll out your muscles. It's different than, you know, stretching a muscle, but it really helps restore the health of the tissue. But oftentimes, I tell people no amount of doing that can offset chronically putting your body in the wrong position or using the wrong tool when you're performing your job, because that's going to put increased stress on your body.

So how do you position your body so that you're strengthening your body as you work versus breaking yourself down? How are you ensuring that you're using the right tools so that you can maximize your efficiency?

And then number three, and we'll probably spend a lot of time talking about this, is based on just the recovery aspect. Like, what are the things: the hydration, the nutrition, the sleep, stress reduction, all those things that allow our body to recover. I know you're going to have a couple of Olympians here on the podcast coming up, and, you know, they'll tell you that they focus almost as much on recovery as they do the training itself, because if you just train, train, train and don't focus on recovery, that only lasts so long, and then you start to fall into this chronic breakdown mode. And I think a lot of people end up—they just feel like they can't dig out of that hole. And so again, there's no magic bullet, but if you can start to just work on a few things here, a few there, you can start to get ahead of that.

I just like, I have so many, so many questions, because from being in that spot before and just like having to work on the tools day in and day out and not having things like time on your side, because, like, you've seen these guys spend 12–14 hours a day on the job. But what you're talking about is actually being able to do a few things while you're on the job—even that can hugely help. It's just, like, things like ergonomics, like thinking about how you're actually moving and picking things up and putting things down, like pulling cable, like whatever it is. Like, there's positions you can put your body in that are going to benefit you, there's positions that you can put your body in that are going to harm you.

Yeah. So it's doing those over a consistent amount of time. I like, you said about rolling out. There's so much on the internet, and I've seen so many people say, like, "Oh, rolling out is useless. It doesn't do anything." And I want to bust that myth as well and get you to dive in on that, because even something as silly as that, like as "silly" in quotation marks, but somebody will see that, like I've seen it online, like people say that.

Stam doesn't do anything. It's, you know, I love for you to explain why that's not right and it actually can help with whatever it can help with.

Yeah. But what do you—what do you like? So what do you start with? You start with the way we've broken it up. Is like, we start with a purpose and a why, right?

Yeah. So let's talk about how you find your why, right off the go. Because if you don't have a reason to get going on this stuff and change your physical body, your mental state, those sorts of things, if you can't find your purpose, find your why, none of it's going to work, because you're just not going to stick with any of it. So talk about how you've found your purpose.

Yeah. And relate that to you, you know, us and the trade life. Yeah, man, there's a lot there.

Yeah, but you know, again, I think, you know, Simon Sinek wrote that book Start With Why, and I think that it's so important that each of us, no matter what you're trying to accomplish, there's that bigger picture and belief in that—you know, you matter to this world. And I've got two boys and my wife, and so much of what I do and the choices I make revolve around wanting to spend time with them, wanting to, you know, live a long, healthy life so I can keep up with them and, you know, do the things that I find joy in.

And so I think for anyone when they're starting out, it's, you know, "What is their why?" Because, you know, I primarily operate in the space of, you know, muscle joint health, just overall wellness. But man, when you're beat up and you're exhausted at the end of the day, it's hard to bring your best self to the table. And you know, like my grandpa, I still remember, I was like 10 years old, my favorite thing was going over to their house, playing in the barn, you know, running around the hay and riding horses. But by the time he was in his mid-60s, it was like he just wanted to go to his den at the end of the day, and it just changed our relationship.

And so I think that, you know, even if you're in your 30s now, you have to have that long-term view of "What do I want life to look like later on down the road?" So that you can live that best life. And I think, too, it also comes down to just this belief of purpose or identity, whatever you want to call it. I really feel like my role and responsibility in this world is to be able to help people become the best version of themselves. And whether that was working with the Olympic team and just being able to help them fine-tune their performance so that they could perform at their highest level, or it's working with line workers, you know, we can do that same thing and I can live out that purpose in that life.

But I think for all of your listeners, they have a different purpose too. And if you approach it like, "I'm a server and protector of my community, and I just happen to be a lineman," I mean, you could be different professions, but the role that your listeners play is incredible. They serve the community so well. And when they can do that at their best, it's having a huge impact on the people around them.

This is something I had to go through recently as well. I was talking to a therapist the other day—I'm hopefully going to have on the show here—like I was saying, and her father was a lineman. Her father retired, was a retired lineman. And so we started talking about, because I was mentioning how as I do this, I'm getting further and further from being on the tools in the trade. I've almost gone as much time off the tools as I did on the tools. I spent 15 years, from 2000 to 2015, working as a lineman every day.

Yeah. And then moved to different aspects, like some office roles, I did some instructing where I got to, you know, put the belt and the hooks back on and get on poles and towers and help students learn. So I was kind of back in it a little, a little bit. And now I'm pretty much doing this role—podcasting and marketing full-time. Now, I'm still in the industry, still a part of it. But I love what you're talking about with finding your why, because whether it was an experience like mine, where I didn't like retire from the trade but I'm kind of distancing from it a little bit now, like the everyday stuff, or you're like that retired lineman, where one day you retire and that's it. You were a lineman for 50 years, but now it's like you're not. It was this thing that you did, but are you anything else?

Yeah. And I think for so many linemen, they adopt the identity of "I am a lineman," and then that's it. But one day you're not. You either die—hopefully not—or you retire, or you move on and do something else. But if that's become your identity, and that's your purpose in life is just to be a lineman, you're going to go through some stuff after that's going to be very difficult if you don't figure out other things.

So I like what you're saying about your why and your purpose being more to serve, you know. And if you start adopting that mindset, like, "I'm here to serve" versus "I'm here to just be a lineman," it's completely different. You can still be a fantastic, great lineman, but you can serve your whole life in different ways.

Yeah. That's one of the things that I've kind of flipped, like, "I'm here to serve." I'm trying to serve. Lineman still—I am a lineman. I can throw hooks on, I can still climb. Yeah, I still can do that, but I don't, and I probably won't for the rest of my life.

Yeah. And I think it goes back to exactly what you said. It's like you don't make your vocation your identity, or you don't find it there. You bring your identity to your vocation, which is a totally different scenario. Because you see this a lot in athletics—people spend their whole life as an athlete, and then they get to the end of their career, and it's like, you talk to, you know, how many of them deal with depression and just identity crisis, and it's because so much of their life was found in that activity versus, you know, this is just what I'm doing with my identity at this phase of my life.

And I mean, Ryan, you're a storyteller, and you've probably been a storyteller your whole life, and so you've used that experience as alignment to bring stories to listeners and to help build up other people. And so it's pretty cool to see how you've taken that and started to thread it in different ways other than just climbing poles and working out of buckets and doing stuff like that.

So yeah, no, it's really important, because if you don't have that bigger purpose, you hit those junctures and it's like, "Man, what am I doing?"

So, working with athletes or working with patients, working with clients in the utility industry, drawing from your wide perspective on this, what are then some practical steps that you've seen people take to be successful in finding their why? Like, what are some three things that people can do to go, "Okay, this is what I can do to start to find my why," because some people are like, "I don't even know where to start."

Yeah. Well, I think it takes some reflection. I mean, it's stepping back, and I often times think that it's important to tell the truth to yourself about a few things. And so you need to step back and you need to say, "What are the things that I've believed about myself that maybe aren't true?" You know, something that somebody told me, like, "You're a lazy, no-good SOB," and so you spend your whole life trying to prove to everyone that that's not what you are. You know what I mean?

And I think a lot of us, we go down this route of when we believe that, then we get in defensive mode, and so we're constantly thinking about self-protection, self-promotion, how do I do that. And so I think really being honest with yourself about what you are trying to be that maybe you aren't is such an important first step.

Then the next is just stepping back, and I always think about, like, who are the people in my life, whether that's a teacher, or a coach, or my parents, or someone who really saw me for who I am. And I think we've all had somebody who's spoken into us and they said something to us, and we're like, "Man, I think they nailed it. That's really who I am." And lean into that. And I think that's a good way to again lean into who you really are.

Then it's saying, "What's important to me, and how am I going to now live my life so I can focus on those things that matter to me?" So again, you know, if you have a kid, a grandkid, and you're like, "This is me showing up to work, being safe, coming home at the end of the day, getting to the end of my career, not being broken down so I can do these things with those people," I think you have to have that bigger picture of what's important to you.

So yeah, that's typically the approach. Well, that's the approach that I went through. Helping them know that they're important and that you know, doing stuff is not just to check the box. It's really about making sure that they're ready to go, fit for duty, you know, ready to perform their work.

I would say that, you know, I think that there's a strong link between, again, some of the conversation that's happening about serious injuries and fatalities, and you know, what's happening just with, like, musculoskeletal injuries. Musculoskeletal injuries are like 40% of all the injuries that occur on the job.

We do surveys all the time. We know that, like, 80% of the workforce, at any given time, they're experiencing pain. I mean, you stand in—I have literally spoken to tens of thousands of linemen over my career—and every time I ask them, like, "How many of you are dealing with pain right now?" It's like probably 100% of the hands go up. It's just part of that.

And so, when people are in pain, we know that their heads aren't in the game. They're distracted. Their brains, physiologically, are not functioning. And so that does put them at a higher risk.

And so, again, making sure that people are not just identifying hazards on the job site but also thinking about, like, Am I fit for duty? Am I ready to actually work today? You know, maybe we need to take an extra five minutes and roll out a couple muscles, make sure we do some stuff to get our, you know, our neck loosened up, so that when we go up in a bucket for three hours, we're actually ready to perform that job task.

Because when you're in pain, it's all you can think about. And so, I think that those are some things that people can do. And again, of course, like, you know, I'm a big advocate of taking some of these steps, like we talked about—the rolling, breathing, moving before you do the job. I always tell people, like, "You know, we'll do a 360 walk-around of our vehicle. We'll inspect our bucket. We'll maintain our tools. We'll inspect our tools before we use them."

But for most people, it's like they don't take that, you know, three to five minutes to do a 360 walk-around of their body or just make sure that they're actually ready to perform. And I think that's one of the most important things that people can do on a daily basis.

I love this, and I think that, to employees, too—like, your employer is going to invest time, effort, money in programs like yours or any other ones that are going to help with these sorts of things. It's your job then to take it seriously.

Yeah, because a lot of people just, like, brush it off. "This is another safety thing that we got to do," or whatever. Kick our feet up on the table during this safety meeting. It's not just a safety meeting. It's not, we're not here just like tick boxes. This is actually an investment in your future and ours. So take it seriously.

But, to your point, if people don't have that why, they're just going to be like, "Oh my, my company's making me do this. This or this is stupid." But if you have the bigger why, then you're going to look at that and you're going to be like, "Thank goodness, I'm giving this time so I can get prepared for the job." It's just a totally different mindset.

And it's hard to reach people. I mean, 90% of the time when I go to speak, it's like they're usually arms crossed, people kicking back in the back of the room, and they're like, "Why the heck am I here?"

But man, when you start to give people that bigger vision, you start to see the arms uncross. You start to realize that, you know, this does matter. People—I’ve never met a person in my life who doesn't want to feel better. When you really break through some of those walls, it is amazing. People are like, "Okay."

And I mean, we see that over and over again. Once we take people through that education, they get to the end of it, and it's like always, like, 99% of people are like, "Hey, this is great. It was worth my time. I felt the personal benefit from it." So it'd be hard to find somebody that wouldn't take the magic pill that was like, "Hey, could I make—if that's—if I could give you a pill that would make you feel better instantly, would you take it?"

Yeah, no, I'll pass. Whatever the pill is. The pill is, you just got to put in a little work and some time, and you can get there. Like, 90-some percent, I'm sure, can fix their shoulder injury, or their back problem, or whatever it is. Totally get their pain to go away, but it's going to take some time and effort on your part to do it.

Totally. Ryan, it's one of those things. It's like, we were talking about some deep stuff like bigger why. And sometimes it's just, "Hey, I like to bow hunt. My shoulder's not feeling good." And so that person's why is, like, "I just want to get to the end of archery season and actually be able to pull my bow back." Hey, that's a win, because they at least have something that is guiding them.

It's like, "I like to fish." Well, you know, if you're feeling better, you can do that. "I like elk." You want your knees to be in shape so you can pack out an animal for, you know, 12 miles. So like, whatever that why is, it could be something bigger picture, it could be just, "Hey, this is what I want to do here." But you have to have that motivation, and then it becomes something that's deeper seated for them.

Some of these utility workers, what have you seen for like the big, heavy-hitting obstacles that are in the way from helping them figure out that purpose or that why? Like, what are some of the big obstacles that you've seen?

I mean, it's always time. Time is probably the biggest obstacle. People already have, like, 50% more work on their plate than they can even handle in the time that they have. So like, this stuff that we're talking about is just one more thing that's added to their plate.

So that's why I think it's so important that if companies or people try to integrate anything into their life, it just has to seamlessly fit into that—be like 30 seconds here, a minute there. It needs to be just a quick conversation so that people can get their heads in the game during a pre-drive brief. It’s got to be easy.

You know, like you talked about getting your gun, when you're sitting there at the end of the day, it's like—it doesn't have to fit in this one box. It's just—I mean, I was pumping gas last night on my way to the airport, and I was doing a couple moves to loosen up my hamstrings and my lower back, because I did a bunch of yard work yesterday. So it's just, how does that fit into your day?

Yeah, I love that.

If people could take one thing away from this particular episode about finding their why and their purpose, what would you want it to be?

Yeah, just to be thoughtful about it and ask some of those questions. Like, you know, "Why would it matter, like, 20 years from now, if I had this outcome of feeling broken down, not feeling great because I've continued down this path? But then, what could it look like 20 years from now if I took small steps on a consistent basis so that I could optimize the way that I move and feel?"

And you know, in either of those circumstances, why would it be important that maybe I made this choice? And who would be impacted by it? Like, what is my bigger reason for wanting to make small choices that are going to send me down this path versus this path? And then having that be a part of your decision.

I'll never forget this one guy that we worked with. He sent me a letter—this was pretty early on when we started VASI. I mean, he put a picture of his granddaughter on the dash of his line truck. He wanted to take her to Disneyland, and he had chronic lower back pain—just to stand for 20 minutes, he'd be aching.

And he was like, "So we—I, this workshop, spoke with him, and he's like, 'Man, this is what I want to be able to do six months from now, in the spring. I want to take my granddaughter.'" He was, like, in so much pain.

And so we mapped out, "Okay, here are like three simple things that you can do on a consistent basis." So he had the picture on his dash, he looked at it, he stayed on top of it with those things, and then I just got a random note like, "Hey, I went on this trip with my granddaughter. No lower back pain. I felt—" all that fear that he had, he was able to actually do something about it.

So that guy felt so empowered to be able to change what his story looked like through knowledge and then application. So again, I think it just goes back to, like, what is it that motivates you, and how do you set that goal? And then it helps you achieve that discipline.

And again, it's not going to be something massive. It's just the small steps on a consistent basis, and it's usually about 10 different small things that you're doing that really make a difference. It's like, every end of these things is hard. Like, it's hard to be in shape, and it's also hard to be out of shape. It's hard to be big and out of shape. Choose your hard: it's hard to live with pain, it's hard to live without pain.

Yeah, but choose your hard. You can fix everything in the middle, probably 90% of it, unless it's something extreme that’s non-fixable. But chances are, you can probably fix most things given some time and some effort.

Yeah, and I mean, there are exceptions to that. But in my practice, and this is why I started VASI too, because I literally spent day in, day out, working on patients, and literally everyone was coming in with almost the exact same things: lower back pain, neck pain, shoulder pain, knee pain.

And the thing that helped those people fix those problems was a consistent pattern. And it wasn't that much effort—it was just consistently doing the right stuff.

There were like 5% of people that I did have to send to an orthopedist—there was a major problem there. But the encouraging thing is that about 95% of the things I saw on a daily basis, if people had the right education and tool set in knowledge, they could fix or dramatically improve most of those things on their own. And that’s encouraging.

Amazing.

This is going to be a three-part series. This first episode is all about your purpose and finding your why, finding your purpose, to help set up the second episode, which is human capacity and troubleshooting your body.

Can you explain the capacity model and how it relates to human performance?

Yeah, for sure. One thing that I appreciated about Quanta is this company has really shaped the industry in terms of how we look at workplace safety. The capacity model, I think, is one of the best frameworks that has come along in terms of helping people understand how we are going to prevent the stuff that kills us.

And what's interesting is, from a sports medicine standpoint, I spent my whole career in athletics. And in athletics, you think about how do you build capacity in the human body, because the environment you can't control. Like, you go out on a football field—you have no idea what you're going to experience out there.

So you have to train the human body so that it has resilience. It has the capacity to perform at a high level. I always joke, like, if I were to take the ball one time in an NFL game and try to run it, a serious injury or fatality would happen. It would be me.

And it's because I don't have the physical capacity and resilience to handle that. But then you look at NFL running backs—they handle the ball 32 times in a game and just bounce back up. It's because they're doing all the things to continue to strengthen their body and create that resilience.

I really feel like a big opportunity in utility construction is how we marry human resilience building with the capacity model. Because when people have greater resilience, they’re in less pain, they’re more focused, they’re fit for duty, their heads are in the game, hazard recognition goes up, and people can perform tasks at less risk.

I do see that there's a combination between creating human resilience and marrying that with the capacity model. And at the end of the day, all of this is just so that people go home safely, and we don't have to experience the serious injuries and fatalities that have happened historically in this industry. I believe we can avoid those.

I freaking love this, because I think you're 100% on—it’s almost like the spin-off benefit from this is you get to live a better life outside of work. Yeah, because you're alive, probably because you're making better decisions even while you're at work. But I love the thought of this—more integration and more thinking about your human experience.

Yeah, it's a big deal. I look forward to that conversation, because I think this is an awesome opportunity to elevate everyone.

Cool. Guys, all right. Tune in—episode two will be talking about human capacity and how to troubleshoot your body.

Thanks for listening. Awesome. Thanks so much. I hope you guys got some value out of that episode. I hope you enjoyed it.

I just want to draw your awareness to a couple of other things. We make these podcasts, yes, but it's not the only thing we put out as far as content. Our social media is full of valuable cuts from the podcast itself, as well as other educational stuff and entertainment. So go follow us at Powerline Podcast on all social media platforms.

Also, YouTube—I don’t think a lot of you are aware of this—but we don't just load these podcasts onto YouTube. We also make vlogs, which are super educational, entertaining, and a great place to learn about the industry, the trade, or what's going on within either Quanta or the Powerline industry in general.

So hit up our YouTube channel—again, it’s Powerline Podcast. You can catch those vlogs on there. We also load a bunch of other extra content in video form. We try to up the quality every time we do this. We try to up that quality. So hit up the YouTube channel, make sure you're subscribed to all those platforms. Appreciate you guys. Hope to see you again soon.

We’ll see you again soon. Peace.